Curse

Lady Lozza · Sep 23, 2006, 09:39 AM // 09:39

IMHO, I LOVE the NF looks, well most of them. They are a breath of fresh air. The eles and mes have some gorgeous faces, though the monk is a little boring. Paragon, could do with some "different" faces, because a lot of the ones they have atm seem to be very similar. Dervishes, kind of the same as paragons. But I really do like the workup the other classes have received. Yes, my characters will be dark. All the dark skinned options in the previous two games looked as though Anet had spalshed paint on a bunch of white guys. Furthermore, the darker tones fit the game setting. RP FTW!

4thVariety · Sep 23, 2006, 09:40 AM // 09:40

For an Arabian expansion, the faces do not strike me as being particularly Arabic.
Instead we see the typical mixture of hairstyles you would associate with MTV.

ricocheting · Sep 23, 2006, 09:44 AM // 09:44

what i find the most disappointing is that guildwars is mainly based around the concept of looks define the value for stuff like all weapons and armor (not stats like most mmorpg). and while they try to base the entire economy on the 'looks makes value' theory, the actual 'looks' part of the character selection is hideously lacking.

and the sad thing is, there is a VERY VERY easy solution to this. if i create a new character, why can't i choose a face/hairstyle/etc from any chapter i own? if I own all three, why can't i create a nightfall character with tyrian face and canthan hair style? there is ZERO reason for not having that option (and don't feed me that "but it's an elonian character, it's born with only "nightfall" traits ... gimme a break. if anything is racist, suggesting only blacks can come from elona..)

arcanemacabre · Sep 23, 2006, 09:48 AM // 09:48

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Originally Posted by Lady Lozza

Yes, my characters will be dark. All the dark skinned options in the previous two games looked as though Anet had spalshed paint on a bunch of white guys. Furthermore, the darker tones fit the game setting. RP FTW!

I completely agree. I actually deleted my dark-skinned ele in anticipation of Nightfall (but also to clear a spot for the event), because I knew I wanted a more 'truer', real-world, dark-skinned ele. Oh I think she's going to look fabulous! (and no, not just because of the skimpy armor)

Definately, all about some RP! I mean, c'mon, the true Elonians have lived in a obviously hot, sun-soaked, desert-like land for countless generations. If you count yourself a 'true Elonian', and you care about RP in the slightest, you simply must give your character dark skin. The only reasoning behind a lighter skin should be: magical, foreigner (or descendant from foreigners), or your family has lived underground for centuries.

Safer Saviour · Sep 23, 2006, 11:41 AM // 11:41

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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre

Definately, all about some RP! I mean, c'mon, the true Elonians have lived in a obviously hot, sun-soaked, desert-like land for countless generations. If you count yourself a 'true Elonian', and you care about RP in the slightest, you simply must give your character dark skin. The only reasoning behind a lighter skin should be: magical, foreigner (or descendant from foreigners), or your family has lived underground for centuries.

Actually, many arabs, in particular, those descended from ancient Persians, have fairly light skin. Some are shockingly pale to westerners who often expect those from countries in Africa and the middle east to look exceptionally dark skinned.

Cottage Pie · Sep 23, 2006, 12:38 PM // 12:38

Some faces look much better with darker skin, they are not ugly, as so many people think, they just go with the darker skin tones, which so many people don't even think about choosing.

Claudia Starlight · Sep 23, 2006, 12:51 PM // 12:51

I do appreciate more options for faces and hairstyles.

I remember having to create my warrior from Tyria because i dont really like Canthan warrior faces.
It's a pain to level up.
But it's for the looks.

ia64 · Sep 23, 2006, 02:36 PM // 14:36

they realy should include previous expansion's faces/hairstiles in later ones...
I was trying to make a nightfalls monk and just couldnt do it because all the faces/hairstyles looked too ugly.
ended up making a paragon, her face / hair style seem to have had much better work done by the artists

DJJD2006 · Sep 23, 2006, 02:44 PM // 14:44

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Originally Posted by lyra_song

That sounds really racist. Just so you know :P

No, It Doesnt, You can make your characters, Black, White, Asain in all chapters so saying that "each chapters getting uglier" is not racist in the slightest... your just trying to cause trouble

As to the matter at hand, I dont agree that the faces are uglier in this chapter, The female Paragon for example hadat least 2 faces that i was torn between, and none were "fugly"

TsunamiZ · Sep 23, 2006, 06:18 PM // 18:18

nightfall appearances are a bit better than factions, but it's still lacking compared to prophecies

HR-Galaphile · Sep 23, 2006, 06:49 PM // 18:49

Character design is the most (perhaps the only) dissapointing part of Nightfall for me. I'm fine with not being able to customize EVERYTHING about my character, but atleast give me some options. And by that I mean DIVERSITY. I can pick from 6 strong featured males faces, 6 shades of dark skin, and 6 diffrently braided hairstyles. And I would be fine with that.. If there were an equal amount of white features to choose from.

It would be totally awesome for people who have all games to mix and match features. Combined with a stylist in Lions Arch, Kaineng, and wherever that can change your previously created characters' hair to a local style/colour for a fair price.

Lawnmower · Sep 23, 2006, 07:03 PM // 19:03

the selection is not broad enough I think.

what happened to Warrior Mr T and Afro hairstyles? The elementalist afro style is not really doing it for me:P

I would like to see more arabian / spanish / latino faces.

why was the blue glowing eyes removed from the paragons? why does one monk face has does eyes?

also... the male necro face that missses an eye is really cool. please make more deformed necro faces. faces with an eyepatch would be great to... or a big nose ring... or scars all over the face... or different headbands and bandanas.

NinjaKai · Sep 23, 2006, 07:07 PM // 19:07

You do know this is a preview event. Whats to say that more faces and hair aren't being worked on that just haven't been finished yet?

HR-Galaphile · Sep 23, 2006, 07:10 PM // 19:10

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Originally Posted by NinjaKai

You do know this is a preview event. Whats to say that more faces and hair aren't being worked on that just haven't been finished yet?

See here:

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[ Based on the Factions preview event, the Nightfall preview event will likely indicate the final amount of face / hair customizations players will get in the final Nightfall expansion. ]

Meaning that Factions preview event had the same amount of customizations that the Factions retail had

ElinoraNeSangre · Sep 23, 2006, 07:12 PM // 19:12

I love the idea of cultual identity in a game in terms of what the faces look like in each chapter. I think it makes sense that there are chapter specific faces.

However, I really support the idea of being able to change hair to that of other games'; just like if I left the country and got my hair styled to match what's popular in the region, it would make sense for characters to be able to do that. And I think it would offer just enough variety to strike a happy medium. Seeing too many clones of yourself? Hop on over to a hairstylist in another country and change it!

The tricky part here is the chapter-specific professions; these are the ones that will probably suffer the most from lack of options. A person has the option (or will soon) of creating a core class from one of three different chapters, but a chapter-specific class only gets one. It might not be so bad to give those ones a few more options because they really are a one-time deal (or heck, if we ever get hair stylists, throw a few hairstyles in per chapter for some variety). I don't know - there probably isn't an easy solution.

I wouldn't mind more face options, but I love the ones we do have (on all chapters). In all honestly, when I first got Prophecies I was pretty underwhelmed by the quality of the faces; there were a lot of them, but a good deal of them had eyes too far apart, ugly lips, too angular faces, ect. This last update really prettied a lot of them up, and now I find myself with the horrible urge to start a ranger over there. Overall, I'm cool with the newer "quality over quantity" approach (while realizing that quality is completely subjective based on taste).

-kel/eli
any and all things that make no sense in this post are the result of massive amounts of cold medicine

NinjaKai · Sep 23, 2006, 07:22 PM // 19:22

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Originally Posted by HR-Galaphile

See here:

Meaning that Factions preview event had the same amount of customizations that the Factions retail had

Only thing about that is. Factions was made by a different dev team. Both which work on different chapters to their own agendas.

TsunamiZ · Sep 23, 2006, 07:31 PM // 19:31

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Originally Posted by NinjaKai

Only thing about that is. Factions was made by a different dev team. Both which work on different chapters to their own agendas.

but the final approval is still directed by the same leaders

MsMassacre · Sep 23, 2006, 09:09 PM // 21:09

Yeah, I agree it's lame to have so few options. I expected one of the perks of owning multiple capaigns would be the option to use faces and hair from different games together. That would be a pretty easy solution to the problem.

BTW, if I remember rightly, there were a few more options added to Factions between its WPE and release, so it might get a TAD better.

BTW2; what's up with female monks in NF? Mostly african faces, but only various shades of blond for hair color.

Bale_Shadowscar · Sep 23, 2006, 10:04 PM // 22:04

Although I only saw the Dervish and Necro nightfall faces, I think they look pretty decent. There is an especially cool Necro face that is missing an eye with a huge scar down it, I'm definately going for that one.

My only annoyance is that the pale skin tones look pretty rubbish on them, and not natural at all.

Baby Raiven · Sep 23, 2006, 11:25 PM // 23:25

yes very disappointing and I would also like to change hair, or color of hair, and get tats after creating char and playing. Like in Fable you can go to barber or tat shop